Thursday 21 March 2013

History: Are the Ashanti’s [Akans] from Ashan in Israel?


Paulina Opoku-Gyimah says: I read about the Ashanti’s [Akans] possibly coming from Ashan in Israel years ago via YouTube and just discarded it -even though I had no trouble believing our links to Egypt (we share soo many names –usually with Egyptian Gods)  …As we all know, YouTube –where I first stumbled across this possibility, is full of craziness, but then I slowly started to see some similarities between ancient Israel and modern Ghana… Anyway the following looks into said possibility…..



Tilte:HEBREWISM OF AFRICA
 

It's a historical fact that the mass majority of captive slaves broughtof captive slaves brought to the Americas, came from West Africa, although some were brought from East Africa, they were the minority. The west African tribal nations that our forefathers were taken from, have many ancient Hebrew customs in there culture. The KAFFIR, BO, GREBO, MARIBUCK, MAVUMBA, AKRA, FANTI, AKIN, YORUBA, KONGO, AND ASHANTI. Just to name a few of the many sub-Saharan nations that engage in ancient Israelite rituals.

Such rituals includes
  • CIRCUMCISION,
  • THE DIVISION OF THEIR TRIBES INTO TWELVE, BLOOD SPRINKLING UPON THEIR ALTARS AND DOOR POSTS,
  • MARRYING OF THEIR BROTHER'S WIFE AFTER DEATH,
  • SEPARATION AND PURIFICATION AFTER CHILD BIRTH,
  • UNCLEANNESS DURING CHILD BIRTH,
  • UNCLEANNESS DURING MENSTRUATION
  • NEW MOON CELEBRATIONS.
  • Plus many more.
Among the ASHANTI tribe the priesthood is hereditary to a specific family such a family has little or no possessions, is exempt from all taxes, supplied with food and advises the king. Compare this with the Levities of ancient Israel and you will see that both are exactly the same.  The name ASHANTI has Hebrew origins, the "TI" at the end means race of or people of, Ashan was the name of a city located in southern Israel Judah (Joshua 15:42 - 19:7 / 1st chronicles 4:32 - 6:59).  The word Ashan in Hebrew means smoke city / burning city. ASHANTI means the people of Ashan or the people of the smoke city, This was the reference to the city of Ashan after the Romans destroyed it in 70 C.E.  In a very informative book entitled HEBREWISM OF WEST AFRICA By Joseph J Williams. He gives detailed description of the Hebrew customs in many of the west African tribes. These were the tribes who were the main suppliers of slaves during the slave trade. And these are the tribes that the majority of Hebrews in the west are descendant from. I will present a few excerpts from his book, and this should further convince you of who the children of Israel are.

NOTE: I must say here that this book was written in the 1930's and the author who is white quotes some "racist" authors, from as far back as the 1700's. He also makes some misguided comments himself, as he tries to find out how so much Hebrew culture and lifestyle, got to West Africa. He would have known the answer to that had he known the prophecies. But nonetheless there is still A LOT OF useful information contained in HIS book.
 


PAGE 23, It was indeed surprising how many HEBREWISM, either real or at least apparent, were to be found among the unislamised tribes.

PAGE 52 In both ASHANTI and Hebrew the traditional vowel sound is equally important for the true signification of words.

PAGE 56, Thus in conjugation of the verb the ASHANTI prefix the personal pronouns to the verb stem, the same as it is found in the imperfect of Hebrew.

PAGE 61, One cannot help being impressed by the number of customs and practices there described that find their counter part among the ancient Hebrews. Thus, for example the Mosaic law of intra-tribal-marriages, which was devised expressly to preserve the inheritance of the daughters in the tribe and family of their father (NUMBERS 36:12) finds a close verification among the ASHANTI of today. And the cross-cousin marriages, so characteristic of the latter, are strictly similar to that of the daughter of salphadd who wedded the sons of their uncle by their father (NUMBERS 36:2). Again the preserving of certain names in a family is as much sought after by the ASHANTI as it was of old among the Hebrews, as shown in the case of naming of John the Baptist when the objection was made, "there is none of your Kindred that is called by this name" (Luke 1:61).

PAGE 62, So also the remarkable simplicity of the ASHANTI marriage and the distinctive part that wine plays in the ceremonial reminds one of the ancient Hebrews.

PAGE 63, Not only in the marriage ceremony itself but also in after marriage customs there is a strange similarity between the ASHANTI and the Hebrews. Thus, for example, for 8 days after the birth of a child the ASHANTI "mother is considered as unclean". It is only on the 8th day, at the Ntetea that the child receives its personal name, and on the 40th day a still further ceremony has to be observe. In all this we are certainly reminded of Hebrew customs. Further, the ASHANTI women at the menstrual period, even to the retirement to the bara hut, read like a page borrowed from the book of Leviticus, (15:19-20). And the system of ASHANTI ablution to prevent legal uncleanness constantly brings to mind similar practices which were common among Hebrews.

PAGE 66, Thus far, however, we have shown certain cultural elements common to the ASHANTI and the ancient Hebrews, such as the ob cult, religious dances, use of "Amen", vowel value, patriarchal system, parallel symbolism of Authority in "stool" and "chair", endogamy, cross-cousin marriages, familiar names, exogamy, simplicity of marriage rite and the part wine plays in the ceremony, uncleanness after child birth, purification ceremony, Menstrual seclusion. and ceremonial ablutions; besides ASHANTI loan words of apparent Hebrew origin.

PAGE 70, For they ascribe to god the attributes of omnipresence, omniscience, and Invisibility, besides which they believe that he governs all things by providence. By reason god is invisible, they say it would be absurd to make any corporeal representation of him. Wherefore they have such multitude of Images of their Idol gods which they take to be subordinate deities to the supreme god.

PAGE 72, In the very fact that the Hebrews, despite their service of the true god frequently relapsed into idolatry. Captain Rattray, finds a parallelism with the ASHANTI, where, as Bosman noted, one finds a belief in a supreme being side by side with multitudes of their idol Gods.

PAGE 78, And there is a common saying among the ASHANTI: no priest may look upon the face of his God and live which sounds remarkably like an echo of "Yahweh's" (YHWH) warning to Moses at Mount Sinai "Thou canst see my face for man shall not see me and live".

PAGE 80, The supreme being of the ASHANTI is identical with the god of the Christians, the Yahweh of the old testament: and further that their tribal worship is strangely parallel to that of the divided worship that existed in Jerusalem immediately prior to the Babylonian exile, as we will see later in more detail. P

AGE 82, The breastplate on the central figure, the Herald (Osene), who is called by Stanley the Town-Crier, is strikingly similar to the breast plate of the High Priest among the Ancient Hebrews, even to its division into twelve parts. The head dress of the Herald, too with its gold disc in front satisfies the description of the miznefet as given in the Jewish Encyclopedia. "A tiara, or perhaps a peculiarly wound turban, with a peak, the front of which bore a gold plate with inscription "Holy unto YHWH". However, the division of the breast plate into twelve parts is certainly distinctive. So also is the head dress with gold disc in front.  
 

PAGE 83, The ASHANTI Myth might thus record progressive stages in the manifestation of "Yahweh" (YHWH) to the Hebrews; the burning bush; Sinai and the Covenant, that established the Nation as God's Chosen People.
This is only a few of the many comparisons he found out that existed among just ONE of the tribes that we (in the west) are descendant from. It would be way to lengthy to include all the tribes of west Africa who have Hebrew culture.


Today all of Africa has been lumped into one, Meaning that "All black skinned people are of the same culture, customs, etc." So as a consequence all this Hebrewism has went unnoticed by the world at large. Most of the customs that are taught to us as being "Traditional" African culture are actually cultural traits that can be found right in the first five books of your bible.
 
Credit /Source:  http://www.angelfire.com/ill/hebrewisrael/printpages/hebrewism.html

102 comments:

  1. yeah, but isn't "Ashanti" the anglicized version of the true, Twi word, "Asante"?
    Listen to the queen mother of Mankessim talk about the Fante and Asante ethnic group.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wrBI7J-wc4

    I don't doubt our Egyptian origins, but i'm skeptical about us being from the "Ashan" group just because we're called "Ashanti" even though it's not the way it's pronounced/written in Twi.

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    1. The real word in the Hebrew Bible is 'ASAN' the same anglicised version made it sound like ASHAN in the Bible, so what this article is saying is very true... Did you know that the Hebrews were cursed by Onyankopon to be shipped from the promise land back to Egypt as punishment for not obeying his laws? the ASANTEs and Akans as a whole are Descendants of Acient Israel and I can testify to you that the throne of David is in the Manhya Palace. Okomfo Anokye{peace be upon him} was a Priest and Prophet of the most High!

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    2. the biggest hole in this theory is that Hebrews believe in aniconism while the akan people do not

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    3. The biggest hole in the theory is simple DNA.We are our own proud, God-blessed race without having to steal Jewish heritageto justify our existance. As to linguistics: "Obama" for instance, is an often used name in many parts of the world, but it doesn´t make the President of Japanese or Antiguan descent...Mount Obama, the highest point in Antigua and Barbuda
      Obama, Fukui, a city in Japan
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      Obama Domain, a feudal domain in Edo-period Japan
      Obama, Nagasaki, a former town in Japan
      Obama Onsen, a hot spring in Obama, Nagasaki
      Obama Castle (Mutsu), a mountain castle in the former Mutsu Province in Japan

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    4. 70 hebrews Jacob and his children went into egypt and came back 400 years as a million and more people. They have to be African. The original Japanese the Ainu people are Africans. Japanese is an african language with lots of Similarities to the Igbo who trace thier roots to Israel.http://www.stewartsynopsis.com/links_to_japanese_and_african_la.htm

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  2. Asante and Ashanti are interchangeable; similar to Kwasi and Akwasi. Also remember that names may be spelled and pronounced depending upon who is writing it and the phonetics. The Finns from Finland do not call themselves Finns in their local dialect but Soumi.
    Ashanti and Asante may also be akin to British and Briton.

    Finally in view of all the similarities outlined, it is more likely than not, that there is a direct correlation and the mere fact of a missing 'h' which phonetically could be a silent 'h' and the replacing of an 'i' with an 'e' which phonetically are interchangeable disproves nothing.

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    1. Wowwwww boogie you are awesome

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    2. I think this revelation will make a lot of people proud and some will even find it painful lol

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    3. If the Ashanti people are the truly jews descendents and other tribe from west africa, meaning that even the swahili people may also be. But why the tutsi people are only bragging globaly to be the jews descendants? Why not other people from Africa?

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    5. Josh Adolphe,because we don't care

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  3. This is how the Israelite form the Nation of JUDAH which comprised of JUDAH, Benjamin and Levi got into Africa. The other 9 tribes went into Assyrian captivity. They were released and went to the Americas; a place called Arsareth (2 Esdras 13:40-45,Apocrypha). The Apocrypha was taken out of the original 1611 King James Bible by Christians in the 18th century. During that time we were in captivity and could not read. Hopefully you have gotten the picture. Basically our identity was hidden by our slave masters deliberately.


    Lu:21:20: And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh.
    Lu:21:21: Then let them which are in Judaea flee to the mountains; and let them which are in the midst of it depart out; and let not them that are in the countries enter thereinto.
    Lu:21:22: For these be the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled.

    Jerusalem was compassed by Roman Army in 70AD. 1 million Jews fled into the mountains of Egypt from Roman persecution and made their way down to the West coast of Africa. See From Babylon To Timbuktu, Rudolph R. Windsor, Pg 84.

    We were betrayed by both the Africans and the Arabs; captured by then and sold to the white man called Edomites or Grecians to according to Joel Chapter 3. Moses had already prophesied many years before that we would go into slavery in cargo slave ships in Deuteronomy 28:68.

    De:28:68: And the LORD shall bring thee into Egypt again with ships, by the way whereof I spake unto thee, Thou shalt see it no more again: and there ye shall be sold unto your enemies for bondmen and bondwomen, and no man shall buy you.

    Egypt is synonymous with Bondage. Exodus 20:2

    Ex:20:2: I am the LORD thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.

    Obviously we did not go into Egypt a second time and certainly not with ships so Egypt here is spiritual Egypt/Bondage. This is the Americas, North, South and Central cargo in slave ships.

    Therefore the so called West Indian and so called African American are the real Jews. The Africans sold us out. We are not Africans but are the true biblical Israelites of the Bible.

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    1. It is funny how quick some of us in the diaspora are quick to seperate ourselves from the african continent. We are everything but of african decent. Read about the tribe in West Africa, where they came from and how the got there. From whom do you think Ben Ammi got this truth that y'all has jump on. If you're not a teacher don't teach. We were "scattered among the four corners on the earth" and the same way He will gather us. Are you trying to say Europe, Asia and Africa is not part of the earth. We as Isralites are everywhere on this planet. The Ashantis, Fante, Baule of Ghana, Ivory Coast etc (Akans) are of the Yudean (Judean) tribe. The Ewe, Yoruba, etc are of the Levi tribe. If you don't know what you are talking about don't and stop that copy and paste attitude of yours.

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    2. Did I say that the Israelites were not scattered throughout the earth. The Israelites are not African but fled into Africa. You seem to be saying that there are Africans who are Israelites when the bible says clearly that that is impossibe according to Numbers 1:8 which says that you are the seed of your father.
      Nu:1:18: And they assembled all the congregation together on the first day of the second month, and they declared their pedigrees after their families, by the house of their fathers, according to the number of the names, from twenty years old and upward, by their polls.
      If your father is of African descent then you are an African and not an Israelite. Now I am not refuting what you are saying about the tribes you mentioned because there is is some validity to these tribes you named being Israelites. You must know that God has put a difference between the Israelites and the African.
      Ex:11:7: But against any of the children of Israel shall not a dog move his tongue, against man or beast: that ye may know how that the LORD doth put a difference between the Egyptians and Israel.

      According to Joel 3:1-6 it is very clear who sold out who.
      Joe:3:1: For, behold, in those days, and in that time, when I shall bring again the captivity of Judah and Jerusalem,
      Joe:3:2: I will also gather all nations, and will bring them down into the valley of Jehoshaphat, and will plead with them there for my people and for my heritage Israel, whom they have scattered among the nations, and parted my land.
      Joe:3:3: And they have cast lots for my people; and have given a boy for an harlot, and sold a girl for wine, that they might drink.
      Joe:3:4: Yea, and what have ye to do with me, O Tyre, and Zidon, and all the coasts of Palestine? will ye render me a recompence? and if ye recompence me, swiftly and speedily will I return your recompence upon your own head;
      Joe:3:5: Because ye have taken my silver and my gold, and have carried into your temples my goodly pleasant things:
      Joe:3:6: The children also of Judah and the children of Jerusalem have ye sold unto the Grecians, that ye might remove them far from their border.

      By the way in am in no way associated with Ben Ammi. I get this truth from the Bible.

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    3. The Middle East is in Africa. It wasn't those you refer to as Africans (descendants of Ham) that sold us out, it was disobedience of our ancestors that caused the 400 year curse to activate.

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    4. Stop all this lie.. Black American always calm to be part of blacks living in Africa. The Ashanti are from the tribe of Judah and their children were captured into slave to America so some of you black American forefather are from this Ashanti tribe. Africa is just a name give by European. Some of the black living under the sun migrate from Israel so stop using white man fabricate bible folm sentence. Ashanti is the oldest Israelite civilization on the earth and they are priest and warriors

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  4. First of, who is an African...I guess we all agree someone who dwell and hold citizenship on that continent but not necessarily by blood right. Meaning they are not a people (a race). Think about this, If the continent was called Africa around that time and our ancestors have a chance to sail back and are ask where are you from and where are you sailing to wouldn't they say they're Africans and of so so so tribe in africa? And who is an Arab? which is not as easy to explain or define either and I won't even try to. My point is you can't just say or pinpoint an Israelite by looks and your best bet is the characteristic. And I'm glad you said "You must know that God has put a difference between the Israelite and the African." Then let God be the judge of who is, and not an Israelite. And if we are of our fathers doesn't that shred the notion that we're all Israelite, What about our ancestors who were rape and those who gave themselves willingly to the white masters and bore children which still goes on today?. Read about the "The Parable of the Wheat and the Tares" maybe you will get insight of how The Most High work.

    Well if you're reading by yourself as you say then pray for understanding cos some radical view and misquoting made me belive you were following those black Hebrew doctrine

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  5. Brother just go read your Bible. Nothing you say is making any sense. Just a whole lot of emotional mumbo jumbo. If we do not know who the Israelites are today why would God put Revelation 7 in the bible which identifies the 144000. How would they know to keep God's commandments before he returns. When you can return with some kind of scriptural references, then we can talk. If not then we move along our separate ways. Read Deuteronomy 28 while you are at it. You know nothing of what happened on this side with the slave masters. An African of of the seed of Ham and not of citizenship you of all people shoiuld know that.

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  6. It's funny you claim to make sense yet you couldn't comprehend the scenario I posted earlier and then call me emotional?, Then you're delusional. I thought you seek truth yet you hate truth. Doesn't that makes you a stiff neck? (Proverbs 29:1) Yea I drop the bombshell. How many of us even know who our fathers are or who fathered children with our ancestors, I just don't read the bible I am bless to have the opportunity to travel, research geographically read in hebrew and greek to get understanding, I know who is of the Hamitic tribe (Egyptians, Ethiopians, Somalians etc) if you don't know their tribes today how can you claim to know. I don't follow or sit behind my computer watching some so called Black Hebrew Israelite videos flexing with their so called Star of David pendant around the neck. Because I told you to read about the "The Parable of the Wheat and the Tares" without a quotation you assumed I don't read right. Who are the seeds sowed among us? (Matthew 13:24-30) And you are not going to tell me is some so called african or arab, Tell me who is standing in the corners slinging dope and gang banging and killing our brethren and tell me is the african or arab selling our brothers and sisters in this modern age in Haiti, Dominica Republic, Brazil etc."Deuteronomy 28:68 And the LORD shall bring thee into Egypt again with ships, by the way whereof I spake unto thee, Thou shalt see it no more again : and there ye shall be sold unto your enemies for bondmen and bondwomen, and no man shall buy you" Nowhere in the bible that's state is a Hamitic or your so called african that will sell you. (during the Transatlantic Slave Trade) Like He said He will in Isaiah 13:17[ Behold, I will stir up the Medes against them, which shall not regard silver; and as for gold, they shall not delight in it.] and Exodus 7:3-5 [And I will harden Pharaoh’s heart, and multiply My signs and My wonders in the land of Egypt. 4 But Pharaoh will not heed you, so that I may lay My hand on Egypt and bring My armies and My people, the children of Israel, out of the land of Egypt by great judgments. 5 And the Egyptians shall know that I am the Lord, when I stretch out My hand on Egypt and bring out the children of Israel from among them.”] So if the Most High can influence one's thought and heart, then what makes it unbelievable that due our wicked ways He sent delusions onto our ancestors to fight among themselves, kill and sell each other as prisoners of war to the white-men . Read (2 Thessalonians 2:10-12) And that's exactly happening now like the so call Prof. Henry Louis Gates went to W. Africa made a documentary about the Ashanti Tribe been responsible for selling slaves. While it was rather the Ashantis who tried to unite their brethren of the other tribes to come together but was betrayed was the only tribe to take the fight to the British for enslaving and trying to colonize them. Which they lost because guess what their brethren on the coastal areas are in bed with the enemy and fighting side by side. But yet most of us believe the lie.

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    1. Bro, you are very intelligent. The Ashantis were the only tribe in Africa that defeated the British in war. The other coastal tribes joined the forces of the British to fight the Ashantis in 2 other wars. The Ashantis were never part of the slave trade in Ghana but rather the coastal tribes. The British refused to trade with Ashantis as they were stubborn and and never ready to give in to the white mans power.

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    2. Thank you so much .this is the time that people must know that the Ashanti people didn't sell anyone to the British as slaves.people are still blind and don't want to learn always trying to follow the lies the white man wrote about us...

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    3. thanks for this. 70% of the slaves shipped to Jamaica were Ashanti people.

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  7. "If we do not know who the Israelites are today why would God put Revelation 7 in the bible which identifies the 144000" ?
    Really? Unless you're telling me you're one of the four angels who know and is instructed to sealed the 144000 Israelite then I believe you because I don't understand the "WE KNOW" in your sentence

    After this I saw four angels standing at the four corners of the earth, holding back the four winds of the earth to prevent any wind from blowing on the land or on the sea or on any tree. 2 Then I saw another angel coming up from the east, having the seal of the living God. He called out in a loud voice to the four angels who had been given power to harm the land and the sea: 3 “Do not harm the land or the sea or the trees until we put a seal on the foreheads of the servants of our God.” 4 Then I heard the number of those who were sealed: 144,000 from all the tribes of Israel.

    And like I said no one know specifically who is and who's not. We can only assume. by our tribulations, characteristics, geographical locations that's it.

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    1. Benny, just a small correction here, it is not the four Angels doing the sealing... they are just holding back the winds of strife. Interesting listening to you and Donshelly.
      But let us not fight but share thoughts. Remember what Ben Carson said: If two people agreed with each other on everything, then there would be no use for one of them.

      So with that, it is good to have different opinions but we do not need to be divided in our overall mission... to be aware of our roots.

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  8. MI FAMILY TRACED OUR HERITAGE BACK, WE ARE DESCEND ENTS FROM THE ASHANTI TRIBE... I KNOW IN MI HEART THAT OUR LAND IS ISRAEL..... WHAT WAS DONE TO US AS A WHOLE WILL NEVER BE FORSAKEN .... TRUTH ALWAYS REVEALS ITSELF..

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    1. Hi Rachael, I too have had my DNA done and I have found out that my family and I are also descended from the Ashanti Jews.
      I am interested to know any information that you can tell me about this.
      I am making my second trip to Israel this year.

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  9. Most African Americans are descendants of African Hebrews of various tribes and ethnic groups. The trans-Atlantic slave trade began in 1492, with the Muslim ruler of Mali banning African Jews from his kingdom and selling them to the Portuguese. From that time on, Arab and African Muslim slave traders systematically raided Northwest, West, Central and East Africa communities to sell to the Portuguese, Spanish, British, Dutch and French colonies of the "New World"--thus decimating entire villages and areas of their African Hebrew populations. This was the Muslim "final solution" that emptied the continent of millions of African Hebrews.

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  10. I agree: Most African Americans are descendants of African Hebrews of various tribes and ethnic groups. The trans-Atlantic slave trade began in 1492, with the Muslim ruler of Mali banning African Jews from his kingdom and selling them to the Portuguese. From that time on, Arab and African Muslim slave traders systematically raided Northwest, West, Central and East Africa communities to sell to the Portuguese, Spanish, British, Dutch and French colonies of the "New World"--thus decimating entire villages and areas of their African Hebrew populations. This was the Muslim "final solution" that emptied the continent of millions of African Hebrews.

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  11. The name and general aspect of the supreme deity of the ashanti is strikingly similar to the God of the old testament the name of God in the ashanti language is NYAME the n is silent so it is pronounce YAHMEH or YAHBEH the name of the name for the God of the old testament is YAHWEH this similarity in pronounciation is to striking to ignore even though are groups of people who would love for it to be ignored.

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  12. Ashanti and Asante are not interchangeable,Ashanti was just how the Hausa pronounced Asante.Asa n'te means "because of war".And to be precise Asante people are not a nation in the proper term,they are a political unit of the akan nation.
    Before the 16nth century there was no Asante,there was Kwaman and many small akan units.
    The similarities do exist though,but I think they come from contact beetween hebrews and Egyptians.Anyway Ashantis don't come from Ashan (too easy) and we are certainly not Hebrews or Israelites,we are our own people ,we are Africans.!

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    1. Check this map out from 1770

      http://www.geographicus.com/P/AntiqueMap/WestAfrica-bonne-1770#fullimage

      Judah is obvios
      Benin = Beni-n where the final n is of the nun meaning Children of Beni/Beny/Benjamin
      You agreed on Ashanti being similar to Levites even though you gave a different etymology that's possible
      Jabou on other maps as Yabou seems similar to the Yebus/Jebus of the bible among Judah and in particular in the area of Benjamin.Always together.

      Even Yoruba of today seems similar to Yeru ba Salem which I am not sure covers the Area of Jabou in the 1770 map.

      The Kingdom of Salum/Bur Salum also looks suspect that was probably far much greater centuries ago and the fact that some tribe from Ghana came from there. A remnant of Salem may be.

      Solimana is also suspect with the gold mines south of it.

      The next thing to consider is the name Wydah/Oidah for Yudah. Seems to be an older dialect Hebrew or similar such as Urusalem for Yerusalem. There are many names bearing Waru in it like a title of some form. Warusalem would be consistent with Widah and Warsaw is peculiar.

      I say this because of Joshua 1:4 From the wilderness and this Lebanon even unto the great river, the river Euphrates, all the land of the Hittites, and unto the great sea toward the going down of the sun, shall be your coast.

      The great sea towards the going down of the sun and its coast is the coast of the Atlantic Ocean as far west as you can see from Lebanon in the East. That's all of Africa except Egypt and Libya. Josua fought for lands in the West but could not get rid of all the Jebus that were occupying there obviously now living amongst Judah. The southern Kingdom of Judah is West Africa and Northorn tribes in the Lebanon area.

      We also kow in Chronicles Asa King of Judah took over Kushite land in Ancient Ethiopia which is synonymous with areas stretching across West Africa

      Check the Latin on this map in the 1500s of West Africa.......Region of Great David of Judah of Sion.....

      http://www.raremaps.com/gallery/detail/35906bp/Presbiteri_Johannis_Sive_Abissinorum_Imperii_Descriptio/Ortelius.html

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    3. Oooh am learning and picking so much from each and every comment. I've realised that some comments in here are part truth and uncertainty. Most commenters which even try to say we are just Africans and not Israelites are revealing truths whixh I myself believe makes us Isrealistes yet they are not sure so they would end by saying we are Africans.the word Africa is just anname given to the continent by the white man so the inhabitants are not Africans because we live in a created Africa.

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  13. As far as ancient history goes, a lot of peoples had many of these customs, even from places like the region which we how call China. That doesn't make Chinese in any way related to the Hebrew tribes. The author see!s to suggest a common non African theory, which I find disturbing: that Africans could not have developed their own culture and anything we do must have arisen from a non-African source? I don't want to knock her theories, bit as she herself stated, her source of inspiration was the YouTube. Very scientific place to start. I wonder if genetic mapping was taken into account as most serious researchers would have done before even releasing such a theory

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    1. well said

      they are trying to colonize African history as well

      but the biggest hole in this theory is that Hebrews practice aniconism and Akan people do not

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  14. Ok, reading through this again, I figure y´all with this strange theory are joking, right? I mean, why would any black person even want to be descendant of the Jews? Its like saying you aren´t proud to be of black African origin. If you think being Jewish will secure you a place in Heaven, well, it doesn´t work that way. Besides, God loves everyone, mainly for the DEEDS they do in His name, not for their race. You ought to be ashamed of yourselves trying to justify your existence as springing from a white (Hebrew) society rather than doing real anthropology, genetic or historical work to map our history

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    1. You are a fool Michael!! You are calling people who have been given the knowledge and truth about a lost tribe of Israel. Descendants of Jacob. And who the hell told you that the Israelite were whites. You are such an ignorant Christian who will probably not make it to heaven. Have u by any chance heard of the word 'ASHKENAZI JEWS' the whites jews u call it. You call yourself a proud African when you don't even know your whereabouts, your roots, not even your ancestors. Do you even know when and how the word 'AFRICA' came into existence??? Fool who don't know where he came certainly don't know where he is heading!

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    2. Ehm, Mark, I didn´t realise than my opinion would cause an abusive reply, but, i guess that just goes to show upbringing. I may be a fool as you say, but i do know one thing: being Jewish is NOT the one prerequisite to going to heaven. I´m not sure how much you know about anthropology or any other such science, but for clarity: Jews are decendants of Semitic peoples such as the Akkadians, Assyrians, Arameans, Phoenicians. Whether you like it or not, these people are and were never black. Subsaharan Africans are not genetically of semitic stock. The Name Africa is of African Origins from the Egyptian Word "Afru-ika" or 'Motherland." some times transcribed as Afre-kh in some ancient Egyptian texts. It was only after the Roman Generla conquered Egypt was the name used as a general name for the continent. Does that answer your childish question? Check your sources, friend,before you start countering things the scientific world has known for decades. If you feel you need to be Jewish, well, then go ahead. Its your deeds and belief in God, doing his will that will get you to heaven, not your being or not being a jew

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    3. nice and matured reply, i don't know why he has to insult u first before making his point when u don't even know him from Adam, it goes up to upbringing indeed, poor parenting I believe,...

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    4. Mark, you said "Semitic peoples such as the Akkadians, Assyrians, Arameans, Phoenicians. Whether you like it or not, these people are and were never black."

      Slow down lol, youre not as right as you think you are. Phoneicians and Akkadians are well known as Melinated people in acient text. And stop with this Sub Saharan BS, thats what Euocentrics do, to seperate West Africans from any history in the East, oldest trick in the book, its over for that now lol. Obviously, humans travel, if you know anything about most West AFrican tribes, they migrated from the Sahel, and got there from the further East. Afro Asiatic history is there if you looking for it, many Nations in Asia, were "black" people. I dont like using that term black, so I like to say Melinated. If you have any questions, shoot and Ill prove what Im saying to you, easily.

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  16. Oh, and Mark, by the way..Ashkenazi Jews? Aren´t you a little out of your depth referring to them? I mean, everyone knows their origin so i don´t quite see how you want to use them in your argument. As one contributor to this forum quite correctly pointed out, even the name Ashanti has nothing to do with the Akan people as it is the British transliteration of the Akan word "Asante". Much in the same way the British misnamed the distant islands "Japan" as what they heard, but the people there call themselves Nippon. I don´t see Nipponese looking to connect themselves and their culture or origins to some distant Japik or any other tribe or race or nation. they are proud to be Nippon.

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    2. Ashkanaz came from Homer
      Homer came from jacket
      No connection with Abraham.
      Ashkanaz is generations older than Abraham.

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  17. Oh, and most important, Mark: Traditional Judaism says you are Jewish by lineage of your mother however, in 1983, the Reform Jewish Movement..which is the governing body for questions of ethics in the Jewish religion decided that it would accept as Jewish anybody who has at least one Jewish parent (i.e. mother or father) and who was raised Jewish. So, I guess from the Jewish point of view, who cares if the Asante..sorry :-) the Ashanti..came from Ashan or not. they just aren´t Jews

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    1. the ashkenazi jews aren't isralites. they are khazars and aren't from the lineage of jacob who was black. you need to brush up your black history and stop being hypercritical. the african-americans and other sub-groups throughout africa ared hebrew israelites. sorry friend there are some errors in your conversations, before you start telling someone they are wrong, make sure you provide the right information. Dr. James L Grace, MsD, DD

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    2. Jacob was black? Like for real? Is that your learned opinion or just a shot in the dark? Jacob's immediate ancestors, according to the Bible came originally from Meaopotamia, from around the land of Ur. When, in your learned opinion, did blacks ever live in that area?

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    4. When Nimrod the son of Cush decided to build Babylon, and the Tower of Babel

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  18. That sound like someone who knows
    U knew this?
    Rvelation 13:18
    Here is wisdom let someone whith knowledge count the number of the beast his number is 666
    13x18= 234 which adds up to 9 reversed is 432
    234+432=666 432 also encodes the speed of light and diameter of the moon
    half 432 = 216 and 432 squared is the speed of light
    2160 miles diameter of the moon
    432 squared = 186.624 speed of light
    double 432 = 864 864.000 miles is the sun(jesus) for those who know the truth.
    all have the root to 9
    234 is also the tilt of the earth 23,4 degrees
    The first 4 primequdrauoplets under 2000 are 9 15 105 and 190
    multiplite together u get 2764125 splitup is 27 64 and 125
    27 is the cube of 3 64 cube of 4 (nintendo 64 remember information is ur face unawere off) 125 cube of 5.
    3 4 5 is that triangle u have in school for mathematics was worschipped by the egyptians.
    2+7+6+1+2+5= 27 root of 9
    The bible is ment for those with knowledge about astronomy and astrology or else u will not know what it means
    It is called a metaphore.Egyptian Horus was called the sun he makes 12 steps a day in the sky before returning to it's original position
    The time on my screen right now is 19 Horus sounds formilliar?
    I have not very much that i know to share this information with sadly
    because those 1 i know says that i think to much and are not seeing reality and calls me crazy
    Plato said the earth was round the called him crazy and killed him
    U don't know what crazy is i tell them but they will ignore just like they did in those days.

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    1. What a load of crap. People are on here with sereouse discussion and you bring this nonsense in to it. Go and get a life

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    2. What a load of crap. People are on here with sereouse discussion and you bring this nonsense in to it. Go and get a life

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  19. Wow this is such foolishness how come the Ashanti people do not make these claims why does it have to be black folks who have no idea what their culture really is? Since when black folks stealing Middle Eastern heritage? Be proud if you are of African descent stop lying about who you are not.

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  20. Wow this is such foolishness how come the Ashanti people do not make these claims why does it have to be black folks who have no idea what their culture really is? Since when black folks stealing Middle Eastern heritage? Be proud if you are of African descent stop lying about who you are not.

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  21. As an Asante, I know that Asa or sa means war. There were twins or 'ntafo'. The Asa -ntafo, we're the fighting twins. Who were later called ' Asante fo, or the Asanta fo...The Asantes of old were known for their fighting prowess, and their well organised army. They've always been described as '' warlike'' There's is still a suburb in kumasi (the capital of the Asante kingdom) today called 'santaase ' meaning the roots of the asanta people. .Their counterpart twins are the people who come from the northern part of Ghana, yendi to be precise, who are still referred to as 'ntafo' or twins. So Ashan in the bible seems a bit far fetched to me.

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    1. fightings twins possible representing issac and jacob ? its possible

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      That is absurd really. Ok, you mean Santaase is the root of the Asantes, really? And by what you are saying the Asantes are descendants from the twins right? Come on. I've never heard this in my whole life. And the yendis too what link do they have with the Asantes. If I may conclude for you by what you've said and how I understand it is that Asantes didn't migrate from anywhere but were placed at their current location by God right? The parents of the twins out of the bloom appeared at the Asantes current location. All these questions need answers. My name is Osei Tweneboah. I am an Asante from Asante Mampong. Nothing will ever change that. I am proud to know that I'm an Asante. Being the real Israelites or not won't ever change the fact that I'm an Ashanti. But we need to know our Ancestry. Where we came from? How we ended down here and why did we come here to settle down. I bet you can only trace our Ancestry not less than 400 to 500 year ago, but we should also know that our Ancester were there 1000-1500 years ago. We should know who they were at that time. We all need to understand that we came from somewhere.

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  22. @ catherine forson: respect dear lady! Finally, someone putting cultural and linguistic facts to use. Thank you for your input. I wish more people would reason this way.

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  23. Interestingly enough Catherine Forson as you mention the word Asa. King Asa was the third king of Judah, and the first one characterized in the Bible as a man of integrity. Not sure if there is any relation though. Oral history and languistics are a good place to start to understanding a nations origins. There is a lot of confusion in the world as to who is who. Also an interesting thing about the word "Ashkenazi". It sounds close the the word Ashkenaz, who are Gentiles according to the table of nations in Genesis 10. Again not sure if there is a relation there as well.

    King James Version (KJV)

    10 Now these are the generations of the sons of Noah, Shem, Ham, and Japheth: and unto them were sons born after the flood.

    2 The sons of Japheth; Gomer, and Magog, and Madai, and Javan, and Tubal, and Meshech, and Tiras.

    3 And the sons of Gomer; Ashkenaz, and Riphath, and Togarmah.

    4 And the sons of Javan; Elishah, and Tarshish, Kittim, and Dodanim.

    5 By these were the isles of the Gentiles divided in their lands; every one after his tongue, after their families, in their nations.

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  24. There are a lot of findings and teaching as well as archaeological evidence to linking blacks as Hebrews and also similarities between Ashanti and Hebrew culture. As I write, there is a documented evidence(supported by DNA) as having found other tribe of Israelites in South Africa (the Lumbars)detail of this can be found on the link 2 below:

    The following links may help you to draw your own conclusion:
    http://www.bjpa.org/publications/downloadFile.cfm?FileID=17218
    1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OA37C9Zy0qk
    2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58_DBfnAMGE
    3, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qalTJzk4kO0
    4. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkn6q40Sb-o
    Also google about Africa map 1747 and you will see the names as "Kingdom of Judah", Desert of Set", etc. This map was changed by the same cartographic who drew the 1747 Africa map in 1771 with the help of UK, US, and others. Historian who discovered this began to question why that change? They use the word "Whydah"( probably the author is asking " Why that" change). This was done for a purpose. COVER UP TO MAKE JESUS WHITE-After all why will you worship black Jesus and enslave black people, hence the need to white wash Jesus. Google about the history of Egypt and you will find out the current Egyptians are not the bible one but they are actually Persian descents under Ottoman
    In the same way, the people who call themselves Israelites today are indeed not the bibilical Israelites but are from Russia(Ashkenaz) who were converted to Judaism AFTER 11 AD. They were sent to occupy the Israel by UN in 1948.
    We all have been deceived for far too long.
    Read Revelation about John's description of God as having Wooly-hair and a brass feet depicting black God.

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  26. So sad to see in this forum...black people looking for justification of their existence in a non-black culture:
    Over 500 years ago, the white man came to our lands and we welcomed him with open arms. He repaid us by taking our land, raping our daughters and enslaving us to build their lands. They forced us to speak their language and to lose our identity, our culture and history. I do agree that they have bastardised the Jewish story too and created a Jesus that is white when, according to all logic he would be closer to Arabic or Persian in looks than white, considering where the Hebrew people live. Brave men like Martin Luther King and Marcus Garvey, W. E. B DuBois fought for our pride and equality and yet the majority of black people would still rather look for the 'white' in them and try and please the white standard than feel proud of anything black. What does the white Bible say about black people? Noah's son, the darkest of the sons and the biblical father of the black race, who did nothing wrong but laugh at Noah's being drunk, was cursed and banished by Noah with the Hebrew God's approval to the African continent to suffer. This has long been the argument of slavery in the old United States and in apartheid South Africa. So, friends, I ask you: as a black person, do you really want to be a Jew? When even Noah, one of the forefathers of the Jews and his God banished your supposed forefather from his grace and inheritance? Hell no! It's time we found our own pride in the things our black history has to offer.
    And in closing: if it is a quick ticket to heaven you are looking for by trying to be Jewish, well, even Jesus himself said the Jews of his time were sinners and didn't deserve to see the Kingdom of God so he decalered the gates open for the Gentiles, non-Jews, meaning you and I too can make it there by merit of our behaviour and deeds, not heritage. If you want to be Jewish just so you can claim to be less African, well, then no-one can help you and you deserve to live in the thought of being whatever you want to call yourself

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    2. I really understand how you feel sister and I do feel the same as far as the Caucasian goes, but we must go by the scriptures and the scriptures tell us that the real people of God, the Jews are really black and not Caucasian. Christ was not Persian looking neither was he Arabic looking, he was a black man of the tribe of Judah:

      Re:1:14: His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire;
      Re:1:15: And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace; and his voice as the sound of many waters.

      This is clearly the description of a black man, not Arabic or Persian.

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  27. I might be only half black, but I feel more African than anything else and I am proud of my black African half, no matter the shade of my skin

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  29. Even our historians in Ghana cannot confirm with certitude where the Asantes spawned from.
    However, there seems to be a consensus it is from as far afield as Egypt and Israel.
    In Acts 28:23-24, Paul demonstrates that Jesus is the Messiah by pointing to signs in books of Moses and the prophets.
    Yet, the Bible says some believed him and others didn't.
    Some comments have given signs from the book of Moses in Deuteronomy 28 which accurately describe our common (West Coast Africa, and Congo, USA, and Islands) experience with Europeans.
    Even our King Otumfuo Nana Prempeh I was shipped to Seychelles, followed by Queen Yaa Asantewaa as prophesied in Deut 28:36.
    Where some are missing the point is in failing to understanding that, just like ancient Egypt, ancient Israel wasn't white.
    This is why there is such a conspiracy in hiding the black faces of ancient Egypt, as one would start wondering how a white baby Jesus could possibly hide in the land of blacks with Marie and Joseph. Or even question how the apostles Paul, who is an Israelite from the tribe of Benjamin could be mistaken as an Egyptian by the Roman centurion.

    What is Africa but a European concept which we're trying to build upon? Who told us black skin stopped at the borders of Egypt in ancient time?
    Does the Bible not say that Israelites multiplied in the land of Ham? (Israel also came into Egypt, And Jacob dwelt in the land of Ham. He increased His people greatly, And made them stronger than their enemies Psalms 105:23-24).
    You must first accept that ancient time Israel was as black as ancient Egypt.
    God knows the end from the beginning.
    Reject not the mix between Egypt and Israel. Our ancestors taken away during the trans Atlantic slave trade carried names from the land they dwelt in.
    These where from will organised and structured empires that where mighty in war and dominated all other cultures. It would not surprise me if these attributes were perfected in ancient time Israel.
    There is a reason why God said not to abhor the Egyptian nor the Edomite as he knew the genes will mix with events to take place (Thou shalt not abhor an Edomite; for he is thy brother: thou shalt not abhor an Egyptian; because thou wast a stranger in his land.  The children that are begotten of them shall enter into the congregation of the Lord in their third generation. Deut 23:7-8).
    Let black Israel know that we are most likely of that mix which the Lord made leeway for in anticipation of things to happen.
    If you would accept, Egypt (or Ham Africa) and Israel go hand in hand and have a combined special place in God's final plan which we would be foolish to neglect ("In that day Israel will be one of three with Egypt and Assyria—a blessing in the midst of the land, whom the Lord of hosts shall bless, saying, “Blessed is Egypt My people, and Assyria the work of My hands, and Israel My inheritance.” Isaiah 19:24-25)

    To conclude, I see the evidence from the book of Deuteronomy CH.28 as compelling accounts of our history, and plight. I can believe Asantes have ancestries from the land of ancient time Israel and have been mixed with Egyptian blood for centuries before settling where we are today. I can understand why God in His wisdom added the Egyptian connection to the blessing, and Edomite blood which would have come through the colonial period (e.g Fantes in the coastline would have a lot of mix ancestry with Europe) and slavery.
    If you subscribe to the black Israelites belief of complete segregation, then you also reject God's plan where he foretold of the Egyptian connection to go as far as affirming "Egypt My people" because of the mix that was to come.
    Be proud of the mix of culture that continues to this date with the people of West Coast of Africa and elsewhere.

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    1. Thank you for your summary. There are those that are quick to argue against the points that are put forward without even looking at the evidences. That has been the downfall of our people. Even Hitler himself knew who we were but we don't know who we are

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  31. In Ghana now avery good things some few claimed it to them self but we now only one language say ashan to discrab some thing that in beun is Gen people Iam not Gen but we all kwon this
    Live and let others live

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  32. In Ghana now avery good things some few claimed it to them self but we now only one language say ashan to discrab some thing that in beun is Gen people Iam not Gen but we all kwon this
    Live and let others live

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  33. If I'm wrong, then I'm wrong and I accept what every argument that so proves me wrong. I just wonder how you came to the conclusion that Jacob was black? I based my arguements on genetic fact:Jews are not black. At closest they are related to Arabs but not African black, at least I have never seen any and no Ashanti has proved a genetic link to any of the Jewish tribes. But, like I said, if I am wrong, I am wrong and kudos to your arguments and facts.

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    1. The Israelites must have been dark skinned how could Moses be white and grew up in Pharaoh's household. How could the Canaanites confuse them with Egyptians

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  34. If I'm wrong, then I'm wrong and I accept what every argument that so proves me wrong. I just wonder how you came to the conclusion that Jacob was black? I based my arguements on genetic fact:Jews are not black. At closest they are related to Arabs but not African black, at least I have never seen any and no Ashanti has proved a genetic link to any of the Jewish tribes. But, like I said, if I am wrong, I am wrong and kudos to your arguments and facts.

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  35. Agyeman keep your mouth shut,keep your ignorance to yourself and stop disturbing.

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  36. My ignorance? I am glad you are such a gentleman and scholar, Nana Kwesi Ofori. When you don't have any reasonable arguments you get rude. How typical and sad. No sweat. Keep your opinions as i will mine. I am Ashanti and African and I don't want to be Jew or adopt some foreign history or culture. If you want to be, fine. I have no problem with that.

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  37. I thought this was a blog and there is freedom of speech or am I mistaken? Where do some get off at being rude and trying to intimidate others here to not express their opinion? Some of you may be used to that kind of behaviour but this is the Internet. I will not be silenced! So, Nana Kwesi Ofori, get used to the fact that I am here to stay and WILL BE HEARD. I am not your dumbass black man you might be used to hanging with.

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  38. Micheal Agyeman. I have read all your arguments and none of them is true.
    I don't think you are truly an Ashanti.
    Historically the real Israelites are the Ashantis. The real Isrealites are black. And uptill date. You can never defeat Ashanti people. They are very powerful and they also of themselves. Thats why you see lots of prophets being Ashantis in Ghana. Take a critical look at a real Ashanti. They love are very powerful. Ashantis are the real Isrealites and don't confuse yourself that Ancient Isrealites were white. Stop possing like an Ashanti ..you are not. We know ourselves.

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  39. Ok, so now you are doubting my being Ashanti? Isn't that a bit ludicrous? Just because I don't want to be seen as a Jew? I am proud of my Ashanti heritage and of being black. You say my arguments aren't true but you haven't given any to prove Israelis were black. Like suddenly they became white? OK, if you think so. Africans, the Ashanti had their own gods and rituals and traditions and we should be proud of that. If you feel you are of Jewish origin and want to celebrate yom kipar and honor the shabet and consider the Torah as your canonical and life law, fine. Whatever makes your boat float. The Jews honor 613 laws which you can find both in the Christian old testament and the Jewish holy books. They are sacred and core to being Jewish. They define what being Jewish means. Read them. If and when you find this in line with your Ashanti heritage then feel free to be Jewish.

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    1. Relax and learn ,you have to
      know that Israelites were blacks
      Similarities in the culture of fore father and the Israelites in the Bible is not a mere a coincidence knowing it existed before the introduction Christianity(Bible). it's equally important that to know where our ancestors came from . hope you know that akans fled from Islam invasion in the ancient GHANA Talking about the Torah please know that everything was taken from them when the Romans defeated them .they left everything behind as generation come and go they lost their identity even as of today . Know that this present day GHANA WERE FIRST OCCUPY BY EDOMITES , IT'S RECORDED BY A JEWISH SCHORLAR THAT AFTER OUR FORE FATHERS MINGLED WITH THEM ,THE FOUGHT AND DROVE THEM OUT OF THE LAND.EWES ,GA ALSO HAVE A SIMILAR HISTORY OF MIGRATING FROM ANCIENT ISRAEL.YOU CAN ALSO CHECK THE FIRST WORLD MAP AND SEE FOR YOURSELF,

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  40. @ Valonica Said,
    I'm not going to go into specifics, so I will keep everything in modern terms, but for scientific facts, black isn't and never was a race, it has always been a skin color a way of identifying us from others , whether those of the same complexion or darker or lighter. And Africa was never known as Africa as a whole, because you had the other empires, tribes, but going back to the times of Noah and his sons; the children of Ham( forefather of the African nations) were; Cush/Kush =Ethiopia/ Abyssinia> (this empire was the only ones that wasn't forced to become Christians or Jews/Hebrews), Mizraim/Khmet/kemet or) kmt which meant black; people of the black land or it also referred to the ground. ) = which is now modern day Egypt; which the people today look nothing like those of long ago, they are mixed with the Midianite and Ishmaelites and other races, tribes to get what you may see now. Plus before the takeover of Islam and the Moors; you had Middle Eastern/ North African Jews/ Hebrews living in that area.
    Put/Phut=Ancient Libya and Canaan aka the Canaanites is now modern Syria, lebannon and northern Israel. and they too spoke a for of the semtic language, which would make they semtic too being relatated to Shem. of course the argument is whether Shem(which the term semite;; semetic comes from) was black, reddish brown or light brown( black nation) or white. Now if we were to say for the sake of science that these people were white looking. we know that looking at modern day whites, most of them don't do too well in extreme hot weather and imagine the weather back then as compared to now and being near the equator. much more hotter
    now all of these people became places and generations of people come from them, the last I knew they was and still are black. A person can travel throughout modern day Africa such as Ghana and Nigeria and South Africa find Hebrews/Jews such as the Lemba.
    so a black person wanting to claim to be jewish or hebrew is still claiming "blackness" because the original jews/hebrews were of a black color. not of the European Ashkenazim, Sephardim & Mizrahim( there are others); now the Ashkenazis being the latter ones to convert. its all in their history.
    now , no where in any bible have I ever read or seen that Ham was banished into Africa. He most likely went there on his own, just like how his other brothers went up towards southern Europe and the middle east and Mediterranean areas. and if Ham did get banished, he had gotten the better deal because if you look think at how Africa may have looked then as compared to now, less desert. they had and still have everything a person could want to survive, why do you think it was called the land of "milk and honey"? compare it to Europe where it was cold, food was scared most of the time due to climate changes and it was harsh living. and no one knows what that curse was, just as no one knew what the mark of Cain was or what was the exact thorn in Paul side. people are making assumptions.

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    1. I thought all white people came from Europe, contemporary Asians look yellow, black people come from Africa. Israel is in Africa, Europeans divided world to fit their interpretation, what's different between Egypt and Israel? Where's the land brake that demonstrates a different continent? Skin losses melanin the further away from Africa you go. Original Hebrews had to be black,and anyone who isn't black had to migrate

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  41. and as far as your heroes( which i look up to only one hero) MLK, WEB Dubois and Garvey, they all were boule; especially with MLK & Dubois being masons, no way you can claim to be a Christian and be a FreeMason or Prince Hall Mason or Eastern Star. and Garey modeled his group after them also. Darkness should have nothing to do with the light..." what partnership can righteousness have with wickedness? or what fellowship does light have with darkness?" - 2 Corinthians 6:14 ; ..." have no fellowship with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather expose them. For it is shameful even to mention what the disobedient do in secret. But everything exposed by the light becomes visible, for everything that is illuminated becomes a light itself...wake up..Christ will shine on you. Pay careful attention, then, to how you walk, not as unwise but as wise..."- Ephesians 5:11-16

    but at the end of the day, its not about your color or race but about your heart; for our souls is the prize.

    ..." The LORD is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but (everyone) to come to r repentance. " 2 Peter 3:9

    " Do not look at his appearance...for GOD sees not as man sees, for man looks at the outward appearance, but the LORD looks at the heart." - 1 Samuel 16:7

    remember we were made in his image, not in flesh but of spirit and emotions(soul) we are not fully spiritual(immaterial) but comprise of the immaterial ( spirit: GOD's breathing life force within us) ; our souls( the part that makes us who we are in character and personality ( immaterial) and the body( flesh/material) our vehicle while on the world. Remember GOD is of spirit ; John 4:24 &
    Romans 8:14, 1 Corinthians 2:14 & Genesis 1:2

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  42. Being African, African American, West Indian(Caribbean) black, American or whatever race and culture one wishes to claim means nothing, but being a "child of GOD and ambassador for Christ means everything and holds much more weight. those things, titles are nice but they mean nothing in the bigger scheme of GOD's plans. because in the end, all nations of people, tribes, color and languages will got to either one of 3 places, the new earth, new heaven or the lake of fire.

    btw merits, behavior and deeds go towards earning crowns. If a person loves GOD, they should automatically want to please him, as we do when we have loving parents or a family member . Our deeds , behavior and walk will reflect how much we love him by how we treat others and and ourselves and GOD.
    but we should never down play what has happened to the black and brown races throughout the world, because they sure make sure they remind of of their holocaust and what we done to them.
    case in point notice how much lack of publicity the film "the birth of a nation" has gotten or not gotten. its about awakening, but if its a slaver movie or one where we are in subjection to them or violent criminal activity...hmmm; I'm just saying.
    its hard to be a black person and yet stand up to be a Christian 24/7 because we can't hide what is so obvious. but as my GOD said, " The battle is not yours, but GOD's." - 2 Chronicles 20:15 ; " Do not touch my anointed ones..."- Psalm 105:15 & 1 Chronicles 16:22; " No weapon formed against you shall prosper." - Isaiah 54:17 ; " I know the plans I have for you," decalares the LORD..."- Jeremiah 29:11 & " never avenge yourselves, but leave it to the wrath of GOD, for it is written, " Vengeance is mine, I will repay, says the LORD." - Romans 12:19

    " Do not repay anyone evil for evil..." if your enemy is hungry, feed him, if he is thirsty, give him something to drink. In doing this, you will heap burning coals on his head. Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good." Romans 12:17-21
    love your enemies and pray for those who persecute(curse) you, ..."your Father in heaven. He causes HIs sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. If you love those who love you, what reward will you get?" - Matthew 5:44-46

    so it seems to me, GOD always and still blesses those who get cursed, Paul, Cain, Ham, etc.

    " YOUR WORD IS A LAMP FOR MY FEET, A LIGHT ON MY PATH." -Psalm 119:105

    " HOW SWEET ARE YOUR WORDS TO MY TASTE, SWEETER THAN HONEY" - Psalm 119:103

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  43. Being African, African American, West Indian(Caribbean) black, American or whatever race and culture one wishes to claim means nothing, but being a "child of GOD and ambassador for Christ means everything and holds much more weight. those things, titles are nice but they mean nothing in the bigger scheme of GOD's plans. because in the end, all nations of people, tribes, color and languages will got to either one of 3 places, the new earth, new heaven or the lake of fire.

    btw merits, behavior and deeds go towards earning crowns. If a person loves GOD, they should automatically want to please him, as we do when we have loving parents or a family member . Our deeds , behavior and walk will reflect how much we love him by how we treat others and and ourselves and GOD.
    but we should never down play what has happened to the black and brown races throughout the world, because they sure make sure they remind of of their holocaust and what we done to them.
    case in point notice how much lack of publicity the film "the birth of a nation" has gotten or not gotten. its about awakening, but if its a slaver movie or one where we are in subjection to them or violent criminal activity...hmmm; I'm just saying.
    its hard to be a black person and yet stand up to be a Christian 24/7 because we can't hide what is so obvious. but as my GOD said, " The battle is not yours, but GOD's." - 2 Chronicles 20:15 ; " Do not touch my anointed ones..."- Psalm 105:15 & 1 Chronicles 16:22; " No weapon formed against you shall prosper." - Isaiah 54:17 ; " I know the plans I have for you," decalares the LORD..."- Jeremiah 29:11 & " never avenge yourselves, but leave it to the wrath of GOD, for it is written, " Vengeance is mine, I will repay, says the LORD." - Romans 12:19

    " Do not repay anyone evil for evil..." if your enemy is hungry, feed him, if he is thirsty, give him something to drink. In doing this, you will heap burning coals on his head. Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good." Romans 12:17-21
    love your enemies and pray for those who persecute(curse) you, ..."your Father in heaven. He causes HIs sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. If you love those who love you, what reward will you get?" - Matthew 5:44-46

    so it seems to me, GOD always and still blesses those who get cursed, Paul, Cain, Ham, etc.

    " YOUR WORD IS A LAMP FOR MY FEET, A LIGHT ON MY PATH." -Psalm 119:105

    " HOW SWEET ARE YOUR WORDS TO MY TASTE, SWEETER THAN HONEY" - Psalm 119:103

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    1. I was looking at this thread of thoughts and I am wondering where did Israel call themselves Jews??
      Isnt this a Name given by Gentiles? This is for the naming of our religion by Gentiles since the temple was in Judah. Yes the whole nation Gods Law was for Israel to worship where is glory resides. We never call our worship jewish because it was in Judah. So who did that? Clear that up, then you will understand the delusions of beta-House of Israel history.

      Hebrew is a language- describing the house of Abram descendants - a Semetic tribe from SHEM
      The Beta Israel - House of Jacob that live in the House of Ham-Egypt.
      Abram lived in the land of Ham-Canaanites
      The Abram promise was given to his descendants with the covenant of circumcision

      What is it to be a proud Jewish person? Seems like a bad taste in the mouth? But its a myth!!!

      We are a Semetic race that spoke Hebrew and Aramaic and not Jewish-es/Yiddish describe by the world!!

      The house of Israel is not Iudeaites thats a disgrace to the northern kingdom of 10 Tribes.
      They had a King, temple and made many wars with the kings of Iudea.

      It seems weird that in the 1611 King James version does not have the letter J; So where did this Letter J comes from its not in the Hebrew, Aaramic or Greek - change of words come through translation after!!!!

      Our worship is from God and is not a religion in his eyes

      God choose the house of Israel to be holy and a priest to spread his glory but they disobeyed.All scattered Israel is proud of this selection by God. We are not Jews- our skin color is mixed with the earth colors- All Cousins

      Converted Jews are not of Israel. its Patriarch society and not through the DNA lineage of the woman OR all Iudea would be Canaanite Because Tamara was a Canaanite. This is a false delusion by added to the Talmud tradition and teaching.

      Jesus mission to his 12 disciples was for the scattered 12 house of Israel and 2nd light to the Gentiles. A spiritual house of worship through his blood into the Most Holy of Holys.

      Where are the scattered children of Israel, they are all over the world.

      I wish to also correct the notions that current convert so called Jews living in Israel are Edomites but Japhetites they will live in the house of Shem. Edomites are from Esau a Shemites!!A Brother to Israel

      What is Zionism a call for the return of Israel? this is also a myth!!
      By Gods Hand it was plain as day to all the nations eyes that he delivered Israel out of Egypt
      A second time by Gods hand he will redeem house of israel out of the earth and above the earth -Isaiah 11;10-16;
      Isaiah 27;12-13 Call by trumpet one by one
      Isaiah 43;1-13
      Jeremiah 23 ;1-8 ch 31;7-12
      Ezekiel 20- face to face judgment and return to Israel
      Ezekiel 37 - Resurrection of Israel out of the grave and return to the land of Israel
      Ezekiel ch 40 - 48 New Temple built by the LORD
      Ezekiel 47;13 - 23 The Land Promise of Abram and The New Division of the Land of Israel

      Delusion of Zionism of 1948 these non Hebrews stop the nonsense

      Lastly if the Ashanties are Semites of the house of Israel the Lord will bring them to Mount Zion with the law on their hearts and each given a new Spirit to worship his glory, side by side with the transfigured spiritual house of the body of Christ on Mount Zion

      If Zionism hasten the return of GOD I am loving it

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  45. Anyone who want to know more about our true origin as so called Ghanaians can contact me for more proof and why we came here as a people greatly beloved of our creator. +233207051537. E-mail lemulpraise@ymail.com

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  46. I am just enjoying the the foregoing arguments as an Ashanti

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  47. I'm enjoying the discussions here. Very revealing. But, in Genesis 25 we know that Abraham had six children with Ketura, a Cushite, after the death of Sarah. Does this add anything to the discussion?

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  48. These whites parading themselves as Jews, it's part of the great deception Matt24 talks about. Let's work harder to secure our salvation rather than fighting for custodian of being a Jew or not, for salvation DOES NOT lie in being or not.

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  49. I believe that certain african tribes such as the Ashanti, Igbo's, Lemba , and among other's have Jewish traditions in their tribes and are descendants of the house of Israel, who at some point in history mixed with the descendants of Ham, who according to the bible is the father of the black race , then moved to different parts of Africa.

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  52. We know that the Akans sold slaves to the whites even including their own children. For the fact that such happened doesn't show that they are not Israelites. Unless you don't know scriptures.Didn't the sons of Jacob sell one of their own, a brother to the Midianites or Ismaelites who then sold him in Egypt ? So what is the difference here ? The Europeans who put in place this system of exploitation and colonisation is what we are talking about and not Blacks selling blacks because Jacob sons did same and it shows clearly that it is in blacks DNA. Dont forget that our father Abraham bought slaves and even his wife Sarah had Hagai the Egyptian as a slave

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    1. You are a coward Kofi - change your name to your real name . abuafunu

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